I just watched the scene on the dvd and Michael does not look to me like he is dressed as a woman. Some subtle lipstick I think, and a hat, but nothing more.javerylibe wrote: One question I've always had about the film: in the final scene at the ballet, Billy's brother and father are seated next to a grown-up Michael who pulls something of an 'Oh, sh—" face when he realises who they are. On Michael's other side is a man who is, I think we're meant to believe, his partner or boyfriend. It seemed to me that Michael, in that scene, is wearing a women's wig and make-up, but I'm never quite sure, because it's shot mainly in darkness. I'd wondered if I, knowing that Michael had dressed in women's clothes as a child, just filled those bits in, or if there's a fair consensus that he's dressed as a woman in that last scene. If he is indeed, I find that quite interesting; it would presumably imply that Michael has grown up to become a crossdresser or a transsexual woman, which doesn't jive well with understandings I've seen floating around the 'net and amongst critics that the young Michael is 'just going through a phase.'
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A mans hat? No ear rings? Thought he had ear rings but it's a while since I've watched it.maartendas wrote:I just watched the scene on the dvd and Michael does not look to me like he is dressed as a woman. Some subtle lipstick I think, and a hat, but nothing more.javerylibe wrote: One question I've always had about the film: in the final scene at the ballet, Billy's brother and father are seated next to a grown-up Michael who pulls something of an 'Oh, sh—" face when he realises who they are. On Michael's other side is a man who is, I think we're meant to believe, his partner or boyfriend. It seemed to me that Michael, in that scene, is wearing a women's wig and make-up, but I'm never quite sure, because it's shot mainly in darkness. I'd wondered if I, knowing that Michael had dressed in women's clothes as a child, just filled those bits in, or if there's a fair consensus that he's dressed as a woman in that last scene. If he is indeed, I find that quite interesting; it would presumably imply that Michael has grown up to become a crossdresser or a transsexual woman, which doesn't jive well with understandings I've seen floating around the 'net and amongst critics that the young Michael is 'just going through a phase.'
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Looks most like a woman's hat. No ear rings. Still, he looks more like an extravagant/artistic guy than a man dressed to look as a woman.Yorkie wrote:A mans hat? No ear rings? Thought he had ear rings but it's a while since I've watched it.maartendas wrote: I just watched the scene on the dvd and Michael does not look to me like he is dressed as a woman. Some subtle lipstick I think, and a hat, but nothing more.
Incidentally, I'm just watching bits of the dvd now and Michael doesn't look that young to me... He has a maturity over him that I forgot about.
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I was at last nights performance of Billy Elliot!
What a show.
Ryan Collinson played Billy, he performance was both excellent and unique. he added many extra bits to his performance to enhance the enjoyment of the audience. He done a street version of electricity which was amazingly technical and acrobatic with several flips that he performed to perfection. He was a great little star and I do hope he will be performing on the next show in a couple of weeks.
I think i'm pretty much hooked on BETM and I can't wait for the next show
Comparing to Toronto Billy, I think London Billy wins by miles, although both are performed very well. I think London Billy is much closer to home and more believable than Toronto Billy. I think in Canada they are trying to be bigger better and "LOUDER" (Sorry mods for the shout) apart from being uncomfortable louder, it was just an ok show in comparison to London.
What a show.
Ryan Collinson played Billy, he performance was both excellent and unique. he added many extra bits to his performance to enhance the enjoyment of the audience. He done a street version of electricity which was amazingly technical and acrobatic with several flips that he performed to perfection. He was a great little star and I do hope he will be performing on the next show in a couple of weeks.
I think i'm pretty much hooked on BETM and I can't wait for the next show
Comparing to Toronto Billy, I think London Billy wins by miles, although both are performed very well. I think London Billy is much closer to home and more believable than Toronto Billy. I think in Canada they are trying to be bigger better and "LOUDER" (Sorry mods for the shout) apart from being uncomfortable louder, it was just an ok show in comparison to London.
Joe Snelling Quote: "It's odd cuz my voice is low but I do quite a lot of the top notes"
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Wait until you see the real Tony (the character of Billy's brother in the show; understudy performed last night) if you want LOUD (he's from Leeds)!paul30003 wrote:I was at last nights performance of Billy Elliot!
What a show.
Ryan Collinson played Billy, he performance was both excellent and unique. he added many extra bits to his performance to enhance the enjoyment of the audience. He done a street version of electricity which was amazingly technical and acrobatic with several flips that he performed to perfection. He was a great little star and I do hope he will be performing on the next show in a couple of weeks.
I think i'm pretty much hooked on BETM and I can't wait for the next show
Comparing to Toronto Billy, I think London Billy wins by miles, although both are performed very well. I think London Billy is much closer to home and more believable than Toronto Billy. I think in Canada they are trying to be bigger better and "LOUDER" (Sorry mods for the shout) apart from being uncomfortable louder, it was just an ok show in comparison to London.
Those row B seats are a bit of a steal for £19.50 if you ask me. Yes, you lose some perspective and you can't see the reflection of the lights on the stage but that's more than made up for by the fact that you feel a part of the performance. I like Ryan's version of Electricity very much but some prefer the ballet version. I have to say though that I've never seen a better Angry Dance. Made me knackered just watching it.
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Yes angry dance was performed with so much emotion. I agree, was also knackered just watching itYorkie wrote:I have to say though that I've never seen a better Angry Dance. Made me knackered just watching it.
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I am interested to hear this because I remember Ryan being mostly all smiles and beaming with joy. The night I saw Billy Elliot, Scott performed before the interval so I didn't get to see Ryan do the Angry Dance. I am glad to hear and also intrigued that he could put the emotion in the Angry Dance as well. Was it mostly because of his dancing skills or also because of the acting he put into it? I remember Scott finished his Angry Dance with a fierce 'throwaway' gesture during the applause, like he needed to release some last bit of bad energy, getting something off his chest, with an angry expression on his face.
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I saw Scott in the Thursday matinee and he plays Billy as a quieter, shier boy than Ryan. Scott has lovely ballet technique and he wants to be a professional ballet dancer. Ryan's Angry Dance is very high tempo. The moves are the same and the gesture at the end where he picks himself up of the floor, dusts of his trackie bottoms and glares at the audience is the same (some Billy's have shouted " what the f*** are you looking at?" to the audience but they seem to have stopped that), but Ryan seems to do it at a much higher speed than the other Billy's. But what really makes the difference is that Ryan is highly vocal throughout the piece with shouts, screams and grunts of frustration.maartendas wrote:I am interested to hear this because I remember Ryan being mostly all smiles and beaming with joy. The night I saw Billy Elliot, Scott performed before the interval so I didn't get to see Ryan do the Angry Dance. I am glad to hear and also intrigued that he could put the emotion in the Angry Dance as well. Was it mostly because of his dancing skills or also because of the acting he put into it? I remember Scott finished his Angry Dance with a fierce 'throwaway' gesture during the applause, like he needed to release some last bit of bad energy, getting something off his chest, with an angry expression on his face.
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Great to hear that. The Angry Dance is one of the most special moments in the show I think, when you consider the age of the performer. To have those feelings of anger represented in the show, while also focusing on technique - they have to be careful not to lose themselves in the portrayed emotion but to make it believable - not to mention the physical energy it takes. I think it's really great that there is an Angry Dance in Billy Elliot, I hope playing with this side of the character helps all Billys deal with their own moments of anger. They're all boys growing up, after all.Yorkie wrote:Ryan's Angry Dance is very high tempo. The moves are the same and the gesture at the end where he picks himself up of the floor, dusts of his trackie bottoms and glares at the audience is the same (some Billy's have shouted " what the f*** are you looking at?" to the audience but they seem to have stopped that), but Ryan seems to do it at a much higher speed than the other Billy's. But what really makes the difference is that Ryan is highly vocal throughout the piece with shouts, screams and grunts of frustration.
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Interview with Billy star Ryan Collinson
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Don't know which accent is worse Geordie or Scouse
One of the things Ryan does in his routine is the hands free cartwheel - in fact he does two of them
The Billy in the photo is Rhys whose place was taken by Ryan in the show. However, it seems Rhys is trying out for a new career as singer:
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One of the things Ryan does in his routine is the hands free cartwheel - in fact he does two of them
The Billy in the photo is Rhys whose place was taken by Ryan in the show. However, it seems Rhys is trying out for a new career as singer:
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I can do thatYorkie wrote:One of the things Ryan does in his routine is the hands free cartwheel - in fact he does two of them
Looks like I won't make it out to Dallas to see Billy before they leave, but hopefully next time I go to London I'll see it! (instead of Wicked... )
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And when will you next get to London? Not sure I believe you about the flip thing - get your sister to record you doing it and then upload it. I tried it but my stomach kept hitting the groundRebecca (: wrote:I can do thatYorkie wrote:One of the things Ryan does in his routine is the hands free cartwheel - in fact he does two of them
Looks like I won't make it out to Dallas to see Billy before they leave, but hopefully next time I go to London I'll see it! (instead of Wicked... )
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Not completly sure, but possibly with in the next year or so, since my grandparents really wanna take me there all of a sudden..Yorkie wrote:And when will you next get to London? Not sure I believe you about the flip thing - get your sister to record you doing it and then upload it. I tried it but my stomach kept hitting the groundRebecca (: wrote:I can do thatYorkie wrote:One of the things Ryan does in his routine is the hands free cartwheel - in fact he does two of them
Looks like I won't make it out to Dallas to see Billy before they leave, but hopefully next time I go to London I'll see it! (instead of Wicked... )
Haha, well, I was a competetive cheerleader and gymnast for 10 years.. I might not look like it, but it's the truth!
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Where do you find the time???? Ok, ok I believe you - perhaps you should audition for BETM.Rebecca (: wrote:
Not completly sure, but possibly with in the next year or so, since my grandparents really wanna take me there all of a sudden..
Haha, well, I was a competetive cheerleader and gymnast for 10 years.. I might not look like it, but it's the truth!
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