Libera - Japan Tour - April 2009

libera36 · Post by **libera36** » 15 years ago

LoL have you seen Tom? Tom is very arrogent and that comes across in interviews.

I don't think he's arrogant. He's a joker, and he's confident in himself and he's happy with his achievements, but I don't think arrogant is the right word.
In the interview on the DVD, if Tom was truly arrogant he wouldn't have been able to say that everybody in Libera was equal and that nobody judges anybody else on how many solos they do. I think he honestly knows that Libera wouldn't be the same without every other person. They all contribute.

dani · Post by **dani** » 15 years ago

libera36 wrote:
LoL have you seen Tom? Tom is very arrogent and that comes across in interviews.
I don't think he's arrogant. He's a joker, and he's confident in himself and he's happy with his achievements, but I don't think arrogant is the right word.
In the interview on the DVD, if Tom was truly arrogant he wouldn't have been able to say that everybody in Libera was equal and that nobody judges anybody else on how many solos they do. I think he honestly knows that Libera wouldn't be the same without every other person. They all contribute.

Thats sweet to say but i know people that talk to him and stuff and he is very arrogent and im not the only fan to think this . Does that make him a bad person ? .... No of course not , its natural as he is a 14 year year old good looking boy who has charm to burn. He totally loves being front and center and as i said it will be intresting to see what he now does as his voice has broken.

libera36 · Post by **libera36** » 15 years ago

No, don't get me wrong. I'm not disagreeing with you, I just think "arrogant" isn't quite the right word. I've spent quite a bit of time with boys Tom's age and all of them are self-centered and overly confident, etc.... Its only intensified when the boy is good looking, talented and, in Tom's case, successful. I have a feeling that, as he gets older, he'll lose some of the "arrogance"

dani · Post by **dani** » 15 years ago

libera36 wrote:No, don't get me wrong. I'm not disagreeing with you, I just think "arrogant" isn't quite the right word. I've spent quite a bit of time with boys Tom's age and all of them are self-centered and overly confident, etc.... Its only intensified when the boy is good looking, talented and, in Tom's case, successful. I have a feeling that, as he gets older, he'll lose some of the "arrogance"

I couldnt agree more

libera36 · Post by **libera36** » 15 years ago

To be honest, it amazes me how self centered my brothers and their friends are. Even though one is older than Tom is and the other is younger, they still have this funny thing about them. Its almost like I'm supposed to readily accept how amazing they are (or at least in their minds...) and if I don't, well then, they have to do something quite amazing to convince me.... Ahh... the joys of boys

Jude Andrew · Post by **Jude Andrew** » 15 years ago

dani wrote:
libera36 wrote:No, don't get me wrong. I'm not disagreeing with you, I just think "arrogant" isn't quite the right word. I've spent quite a bit of time with boys Tom's age and all of them are self-centered and overly confident, etc.... Its only intensified when the boy is good looking, talented and, in Tom's case, successful. I have a feeling that, as he gets older, he'll lose some of the "arrogance"
I couldnt agree more

I Agree with both of you

and I also think that arrogance is the wrong word here. I all of the media I have watched of Tom whether be singing or in interviews he has never given off an air of arrogance. I think he has belief in himself, yes and there is nowt wrong with that !! Good luck to the young man.

dani · Post by **dani** » 15 years ago

libera36 wrote:To be honest, it amazes me how self centered my brothers and their friends are. Even though one is older than Tom is and the other is younger, they still have this funny thing about them. Its almost like I'm supposed to readily accept how amazing they are (or at least in their minds...) and if I don't, well then, they have to do something quite amazing to convince me.... Ahh... the joys of boys

LoL to be fair i have a 30 year old brother and he is still like that, thinks he is gods gift and at least your boys have a chance to change, my bro tho i think thats pretty much him now.

libera36 · Post by **libera36** » 15 years ago

Haha, well, I think my brothers will grow out of it, as I'm sure Tom will.

I Agree with both of you Laughing and I also think that arrogance is the wrong word here. I all of the media I have watched of Tom whether be singing or in interviews he has never given off an air of arrogance. I think he has belief in himself, yes and there is nowt wrong with that !! Good luck to the young man.

I just looked up the definition of arrogant: "Having or displaying a sense of overbearing self-worth or self-importance." Tom has a displayed not an overbearing self-worth, but a comfortable self-worth.... So, combined with the age and the nature of the situation, I declare him quite average

dani · Post by **dani** » 15 years ago

libera36 wrote:Haha, well, I think my brothers will grow out of it, as I'm sure Tom will.

I Agree with both of you Laughing and I also think that arrogance is the wrong word here. I all of the media I have watched of Tom whether be singing or in interviews he has never given off an air of arrogance. I think he has belief in himself, yes and there is nowt wrong with that !! Good luck to the young man.
I just looked up the definition of arrogant: "Having or displaying a sense of overbearing self-worth or self-importance." Tom has a displayed not an overbearing self-worth, but a comfortable self-worth.... So, combined with the age and the nature of the situation, I declare him quite average

Well i will hold my judgement to see if he contintues at the back for Libera. I think if he can be a lower voice for the next year it will do him the world of good. But as i said im not sure if he has it in him.

musey_na · Post by **musey_na** » 15 years ago

The Japanese blogger, Mimi yori Usagi, whom I asked about Stefan's identity, has very graciously uploaded a bigger version of his picture and info, just to make sure:

http://hamoblo.com/littlerabbit/index.p" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... tryId=1305

As for Tom's involvement, how is it anyone's business what he may or may not be doing? How is it anyone's business if he "has it in him" to be a lower voice in Libera? Can't he have other things in his life? Besides, don't you find it inappropriate for us to be posting anonymously on an online forum, discussing and judging the supposed personality flaws of a 14-year-old? He's given six, seven years of his life to this group and made an enormous contribution to it, so give him a break already.

carina_gino20 · Post by **carina_gino20** » 15 years ago

dearmadine wrote: after the cherish concert (it was really crowded), josh had a 1,000 yen bill (10USD) in his hand to imply 'please donate money' message. if someone handed changes, josh gave them "jokative" smile and gave them back the changes (a cute way to imply 'dude, open your wallet' i guess lol) and if someone handed 10,000 yen bill (100USD) josh gave them 'ohh you are amazing' smile and gave them hand shakes with both hands.

haha these boys know how to raise money

Thanks.

If I ever need to raise money, I know who to call!

dani · Post by **dani** » 15 years ago

musey_na wrote:The Japanese blogger, Mimi yori Usagi, whom I asked about Stefan's identity, has very graciously uploaded a bigger version of his picture and info, just to make sure:

http://hamoblo.com/littlerabbit/index.p" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... tryId=1305

As for Tom's involvement, how is it anyone's business what he may or may not be doing? How is it anyone's business if he "has it in him" to be a lower voice in Libera? Can't he have other things in his life? Besides, don't you find it inappropriate for us to be posting anonymously on an online forum, discussing and judging the supposed personality flaws of a 14-year-old? He's given six, seven years of his life to this group and made an enormous contribution to it, so give him a break already.

He is in the public eye and so people are interested . If you dont want to be famous then dont join a famous choir. When you are in the public eye people have opnions and last time i checked this was a forum so we are here to talk about them.

libera36 · Post by **libera36** » 15 years ago

Hey, hey, hey, lets not get in an argument please?? Whether or not Tom returns to Libera is not any of our business, nor is the reason behind his decision, be it to stay or to go. Nobody was saying that Tom had personality flaws. I've never even met Tom and only somebody who knew Tom very well could really judge his personality. If Tom chooses to leave Libera, I will be sorry to see him go, but I know that he and his family will do whats best for them. If he chooses to stay, I'll enjoy watching him sing with Libera until he does choose to leave.

Lets consider this part of our conversation closed

On the topic of Stefan Leadbeater: I can't really tell if it was him in the You Were There recording or not. His hair looks darker in the picture than the boy's in the recording.

jennaluvspbr · Post by **jennaluvspbr** » 15 years ago

libera36 wrote:Hey, hey, hey, lets not get in an argument please?? Whether or not Tom returns to Libera is not any of our business, nor is the reason behind his decision, be it to stay or to go. Nobody was saying that Tom had personality flaws. I've never even met Tom and only somebody who knew Tom very well could really judge his personality. If Tom chooses to leave Libera, I will be sorry to see him go, but I know that he and his family will do whats best for them. If he chooses to stay, I'll enjoy watching him sing with Libera until he does choose to leave.

Lets consider this part of our conversation closed

On the topic of Stefan Leadbeater: I can't really tell if it was him in the You Were There recording or not. His hair looks darker in the picture than the boy's in the recording.

yes fans you guys are fans of libera and so am i and ples dot make this hard on the boys that was in japan and ples dot make this hard on them ok from jenna

carina_gino20 · Post by **carina_gino20** » 15 years ago

libera36 wrote:On the topic of Stefan Leadbeater: I can't really tell if it was him in the You Were There recording or not. His hair looks darker in the picture than the boy's in the recording.

The boy in the video looks exactly like the one in the picture. Anyway, hair color sometimes changes depending on the lighting. I was happy to read that so many new boys got their first solos. And it is interesting to know that Stefan is doing a lot of the high notes.