Re: Origin of Various Libera Songs
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:41 am
Out of curiosity, does anyone know how SoP has done comparatively in terms of ratings or viewer share before and after the changes in 2014?
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In the late 90's it had a viewership of between 5 and 6 million viewers per week but it was on after the Sunday evening news which would be a prime slot. I haven't seen anything with viewing figures for the time they sold it out in 2014. In the article below it claims a recent increase in viewing figures but the problem with stats is that they aren't always obvious. If viewing figure start at 5 million and drop by 50% and then increase by 55% you end up with 3,875,000TullyBascombe wrote: ↑<span title="Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:41 am">2 years ago</span> Out of curiosity, does anyone know how SoP has done comparatively in terms of ratings or viewer share before and after the changes in 2014?
Thanks for this. When we got the listing for the new album I posted this on Twitter:filiarheni wrote: ↑<span title="Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:06 pm">2 years ago</span> About Nunc dimittis, composed by Geoffrey Burgon (1941 - 2010) for treble, trumpet, organ and strings, which first appeared on the "Angel Voices 2" album and was revisited and rerecorded for "if".
The song featured as music for the end credits in the 1979 TV series "Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy". The soloist Paul Phoenix was a member of the St. Paul's Cathedral Choir and later became a tenor of The King's Singers.
The only numbers I found were 7 million in 1994 and 3.4 million in 2009. The Church Times article referenced by Andy indicates current audience of 1.2 million which is "an increase of 29%" which means that it went below one million at one time. No surprise really.Yorkie wrote: ↑<span title="Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:33 pm">2 years ago</span>In the late 90's it had a viewership of between 5 and 6 million viewers per week but it was on after the Sunday evening news which would be a prime slot. I haven't seen anything with viewing figures for the time they sold it out in 2014.TullyBascombe wrote: ↑<span title="Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:41 am">2 years ago</span> Out of curiosity, does anyone know how SoP has done comparatively in terms of ratings or viewer share before and after the changes in 2014?
Right. I chose the film version for being the original, but have listened to the album as well.Yorkie wrote: ↑<span title="Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:35 pm">2 years ago</span>Thanks for this. When we got the listing for the new album I posted this on Twitter:filiarheni wrote: ↑<span title="Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:06 pm">2 years ago</span> The song featured as music for the end credits in the 1979 TV series "Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy". The soloist Paul Phoenix was a member of the St. Paul's Cathedral Choir and later became a tenor of The King's Singers.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3suBkZ1aIg
Paul Phoenix appears a lot on this album with his St Paul's Cathedral choir.
I probably wouldn't have realised that.kinda_k00l wrote: ↑<span title="Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:39 am">2 years ago</span>So Cum Dederit is the 4th movement of Nisi Dominus, and coincidently (or not), Cum Dederit is the 4th 'song' of IF.
This composition sounds quite mysterious, I find, and leaves me with a feeling of tension and uncertainty.kinda_k00l wrote: ↑<span title="Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:39 am">2 years ago</span>"conveys drowsiness by being set in a slow siciliana style and employing a distinctive motive with chromatically ascending lines that the composer often introduces in association with the idea of sleep." (Hyperion)
Same here.kinda_k00l wrote: ↑<span title="Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:39 am">2 years ago</span>That being said, I'm really looking forward to Libera's version (or more specifically Dominik, I'm pretty sure that's his voice) in Bb minor, it sounds lovely already in that small extract we're currently having.
Thank you for this information and detailed analysis. I wouldn't have known these details otherwise! I agree with you that it sounds like Dominik on the solo so we will see if you are right. This is such a unusual song for them that I'm intrigued to hear the entire piece and what sort of harmonies they were able to work into it - whether instrumental or vocal.kinda_k00l wrote: ↑<span title="Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:39 am">2 years ago</span> Regarding Cum Dederit, I didn't know the piece beforehand, but when I listened to the extract on Libera's official website, I thought it sounded like an aria or something from the Baroque period, so I looked it up.
It belongs to a piece named Nisi Dominus, by the Baroque composer Antonio Vivaldi. Nisi Dominus (RV 608 - G minor) is the musical setting to Psalm 127 (126) for alto, viola d’amore, strings, and continuo (you can find the public domain sheet music on IMSLP). According to Hyperion Records, "Nisi Dominus, RV608, is Vivaldi’s most extended and artistically ambitious Psalm setting for solo voice to have survived."
Thank you for this analysis and history which I assume most of us were unfamiliar with. I agree that it sounds like Dominik's voice and I am looking forward to hear it. It's a unique and unusual piece for Libera, outside the normal scope of their song picks which makes it all the more intriguing!